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Post by victoria on Jan 28, 2008 22:44:18 GMT -5
i dont under my boyfriend one day he is like im happy and excited then next day he is like no one loves me and i want to comit suicide... i dont understand him.... oh well i try...
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Post by chaosprincess on Jan 29, 2008 7:10:51 GMT -5
i think it is. i don't know how you can quit life. there are so many people in the whole world who WANT to live and can't. and there are so many people who DON'T want to live and quit their lives. it's so.. i don't know. there's always a solution for your problems. don't matter how complicated they are.
talk with your boy. say him that he scares you and that there's always a better way than killing himself. say hat you love him and that there are more people who love him (maybe family, other friends)
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Post by Mickey on Jan 29, 2008 11:18:32 GMT -5
I think suicide is selfish. But I also know that people who are seriously suicidal, don't think that far. They can't see that there might be things, in life, worth living for. Usually, they're so far along that all they can think of, is for it all to end.
Yeah, talk to your boyfriend and maybe suggest that he gets some professional help. I know they say that people who talk about suicide, won't actually do it. But if he's feeling like saying it, he should definitely talk to someone about whatever it is that's troubling him, and I'm sorry to say, but you or his family may not be enough.
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Post by NaNiSh!..^__^ on Feb 2, 2008 0:41:43 GMT -5
i believe that suicide comes when the person feels he or she has nothing to live for... it's like a clot that's blocking the part of the brain where happyness lives....
is it selfish....??... i don't think selfish is the word to describe.... such thing... such action.... it's more like loosing or failing something,.... if a person does such a thing it's because it's not capable of carrying on with this hudge gift that is life.... and what it leads to is suicide....
now... family... i understand it must hurt that someone you love chooses to takes his or her life.... but it's still a desition.... the person is not going to ask.. "should i commit suicide?" ... nope... he or she is going to do it... and f**k everything...
and if the person announces suicide... well that means he or she only wants to get some attention so someone helps with the situation....
u.u that's how i see it
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Post by Gabriel on Feb 2, 2008 1:27:09 GMT -5
Well, it's not selfish...that people just feel an unbearable pain and they actually don't want to kill themselves, they only want to end the pain they feel so they take the easiest and shortest way. It's not his fault, however and don't feel bad cuase it's not your fault either...they just can't help feeling like that. That kind of people really need to get some help...
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Post by musicalmorphine on Feb 3, 2008 6:16:21 GMT -5
I wouldn't say it's selfish exactly. I've battled with this question for years and never quite found the answer. I mean, I've felt suicidal before, but I knew I coundn't because of what it would do to my mum. And my mum's been on anti-depressants since she was about 16, and I'd more than likely be responsible for her death too.
If someone commits suicide I don't think how selfish of them, I'm sad because they didn't get help, or they couldn't find a way out other than that.
I guess when you feel like you simply cannot deal with it anymore then that's just it, you can't deal any more.
Many people say they want to die when what they really want is the pain to stop, and dyin g is the only way they believe that will happen.
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Post by Zakul on Feb 13, 2008 2:21:08 GMT -5
It's selfish, yes. However, those who are suicidal obviously do not think this.
If someone was suicidal, they usually have a reason, they think the world is against them, they think that no one cares, et cetera et cetera. They're pretty messed up.
In their eyes, it's not selfish; they see an ideal escape as well as making everyone's lives "happier" when they are gone.
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Post by saturnine on Feb 13, 2008 7:49:01 GMT -5
I think there are different sorts of suicidal people. There are people who wants to die because they want to stop all the pain they feel .They think their life is hopeless and nobody takes care. So they will not say they want to die.They think nothing/nobody can save them. I think these people are not selfish.If they would have real friends or condidants, they wouldn't be suicidal. And there are people who say to their friends that they want to die. But i think they just want to get attention. So it's selfish.
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Post by musicalmorphine on Feb 14, 2008 5:18:48 GMT -5
And there are people who say to their friends that they want to die. But i think they just want to get attention. So it's selfish. But then maybe that's a cry for help. I don't think that is selfish. I think also, like other people have mentioned, a lot of suicidal people don't think anyone would care if they died.
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Post by shatteredpieces on Feb 21, 2008 14:47:52 GMT -5
i don't think it's selfish. it's ..just..it happens when someone who is depressed has a moment of black out or blur and can't think right.
it's unfair to think it's selfish of the person commiting suicide when everyone in this person's life were selfish themselves.
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Post by vampirequeen on Feb 21, 2008 15:13:04 GMT -5
i dont think people whio commit suicide are selfish.Its unfair to say that if you dont know what has happened to make that person think that killing themselves is the only way out.
People may have done it because of depression.Or it maybe the result of a family tragedy that the pertson cant cope with.Or maybe that person has problems thay feel they can't overcome. However if people self harm then that is different. that is a cry for attention even if people say its not. when people find the scars,ask you to stop and you dont even try, now that is selfish because you obviously dont care about the fact you are hurting other people too.I dont think suicide is selfish at all.It just shows that some people needed help and wern't given it or couldnt cope.
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Post by nadene on Feb 22, 2008 3:04:10 GMT -5
People say suicide is selfish because of the pain that's left behind from someone taking their life...which is a concequence of suicide...and when someone takes there own life,they are in such a state where their problem is to big for them and that's all they see the problem or the pain and not the concequences..so it's a sad thing all round..I'm in my 2nd year studying to work in the community services area..ppl with problems...and learning alot...but with my life experiences I know you can get through anything, you just have to want to and not give up..and if you don't give up it's true the saying there's a light at the end of the tunnel...so don't give up on life
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Post by musicalmorphine on Feb 23, 2008 7:43:11 GMT -5
Okay, I don't care how much you think you know, that is NOT true. I self harmed for three years on and off, I never showed anyone my cuts or scars. Self injury is a COPING MECHANISM, and it is addictive. How the hell would you know whether the person wants to try and stop or not? If family and friends find out, of course we worry about hurting them, but it's not just as easy as saying "Sorry, I'm hurting you by doing this? I'll just stop then." Even if it is a cry for attention, think about what a drastic measure that is for attention, they obviously need help for whatever reason. Think before you speak please.
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Post by Powpow on Feb 25, 2008 15:16:44 GMT -5
I don't think committing suicide is selfish..it is not the good word and this action is too ...understandable to be qualified " selfish". Someone who enjoys life can't understand it. Someone who wants to quit life obviously don't find any reason, any sense to life. So they consider themselves as unworthy, they don't think they are here for any reason, so they prefer quit suffering. I think it is well ...selfish in some way as it causes pain to people around, people who think " were we blind? we should have seen her/ his suffering". I don't think comitting suicide is wanting attention, wanting attention is before committing suicide. People that cut themselves cut themselves for different reasons. I agree with musical morphine, because I have never cut myself so I am the best to say why people do this. But what i know is I had a friend who was on LPC who cut herself and finally decided to quit life. And she said she needed attention she wanted help, and she said it through her writings. she wanted to be recognized, I wish i had known her better so i could have understood better but I think only people who live it can really tell about it.
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Post by blackstef on Mar 26, 2008 15:19:18 GMT -5
i think it is because you don't think at the ppl that you leave behind
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